Brent Russell

Hi! I'm Brent's AI assistant. Ask me anything about his experience, skills, or travels.

About Me

I have spent more than twenty years inside technology companies as a founder, as the first technical hire, and as the CTO brought in to grow what someone else started. The part of the job I care most about is leadership: hiring and building engineering teams, setting the IT strategy, putting the processes and infrastructure in place that lets a startup become a company, and making sure the technology actually serves the business.

That is the work I am doing now as CTO of Mod Advisor, where I rebuilt the IT organization, hired and manage an engineering team in Mumbai, took the company through SOC 2, and brought AI into both the product and the way the team works. It is the same work I did before. At CoinLock I designed the platform, stood up the AWS infrastructure, and opened an engineering office in Mumbai. At Bleam Technology I co-founded a VoIP company that was profitable within six months and acquired by Voip-Pal. At Aragon I built a department from nothing. Before any of that I was the sole IT person at the Science Center of Iowa and a systems administrator running networks across the US and Australia, which is where the hands-on habits come from.

Away from work I have traveled to 92 countries on every continent, lived in Latin America long enough to speak Spanish fluently, and taught myself photography along the way. Check out the Travel map and Photography gallery on this site.

I have two amazing Borzoi dogs that are the best dogs I have ever had, Sushi and Nikita, who can hit 36 mph in the yard and then spend the rest of the day on the couch. You can see their pictures here. I also listen to music from all over the world, with traditional Colombian music at the top of the list, and you can play some of my favorite songs right on this page.

What I Do

Leadership and CTO

I take companies out of the startup phase. The work is the same at every company: learn how the business actually runs, write down the requirements nobody has written down, turn the things that depend on one person into repeatable processes, and fix the IT that was holding everything together with tape. I have done it as a founder and as the CTO brought in to grow what someone else started.

Bleam Technology. Co-founder and CTO of a PSTN-to-VoIP international calling platform. Self-funded, profitable and debt free within six months with no outside investment, 43,000 subscribers, and acquired by Voip-Pal in 2011.

Voz Technologies. Founder. Built a data mining and automated marketing system of 80 websites that generated over $3 million in revenue, migrated it from on-prem Linux to AWS at 99.9% uptime, and automated nearly every operational task so the business could run while I lived and worked abroad.

CoinLock. Founding CTO of a peer-to-peer derivatives and payments platform. Designed the MVP and its APIs, ran 50 AWS instances and 15 databases, wrote the security plan and SOC 2 preparation, and relocated to Mumbai for six months to open an office and hire and train the engineering team.

Mod Advisor. CTO. Rebuilt the IT department from the ground up, hired and manage the engineering team in Mumbai, introduced sprints and Scrum, reorganized AWS into proper sandbox, stage, and production environments, moved everything to Docker with automated deployments, cut server costs, took the company through SOC 2, and brought AI into both the product and the development workflow.

Along the way I have owned budgets, forecasts, IT strategy, vendor and partner relationships, and the business analysis that turns a vague request into a working spec.

Engineering, Infrastructure, and AI

I still write code and I still run servers, because a CTO who cannot do either is guessing. On the software side I work in PHP and Laravel, Python, JavaScript and Next.js, and SQL on MySQL, Aurora, and Postgres, with a long tail of older tools from TCL on Cisco gear to VB.NET and ColdFusion. I build systems as microservices running in Docker, with CI/CD pipelines in GitHub Actions that test and deploy every change. On the infrastructure side I have managed Linux systems since 2004: DNS and DHCP, reverse proxies, firewalls and VLANs, bare metal and cloud on AWS and Azure, and the physical migrations that come with moving a company.

AI is now part of all of it. I run local language models on my own GPU server and use them as working tools: they power features inside the products I build, including Zepey and Perfect Home Strategies, they answer voice commands in my home, and they run the assistant on this page. I also train custom models and build agentic workflows against my own code and data. The point is never the novelty. It is shipping faster with a smaller team and keeping the data in the house.

Photography

Photography is how I remember travel. Over the past 15 years I have photographed landscapes and everyday culture in 92 countries, from the Arctic in winter to tracking silverback gorillas for multiple days in the Ugandan mountains. Most of it was shot on the road with a Canon R5, a Canon 5D, and the occasional drone. Landscapes and night photography are what I come back to, but I have also shot fashion-style portraits and a few weddings. You can see the travel work in the photography gallery on this site.

In 2022 I started a photography company, picturing.us, and found that the marketing and editing side was not fulfilling, so it remains a side venture.

Resume

22 Years of Experience
Technical Leadership IT Strategy Global Cross-Functional Team Leadership Strategic Planning and Budgeting Cost Reduction Planning SOC 2 Compliance Information Security and Risk Management Amazon Web Services (AWS) Information Technology Infrastructure Software Solution Architecture Artificial Intelligence (AI) Large Language Models (LLM) Model Context Protocol (MCP) Scrum Master Product Strategy Project Management Continuous Integration and Continuous Delivery (CI/CD) Docker Linux System Administration Network Administration API Development JavaScript Python Node.js PHP Laravel Redis MySQL PostgreSQL Nginx English Spanish Italian Certified ScrumMaster

Experience

Dec 2025 - Present
Mod Advisor Des Moines, Iowa

Chief Technology Officer

  • Rebuilt the IT organization from the ground up: traveled to Mumbai, opened a local office, interviewed and hired a new engineering team, and manage its day-to-day operations including device logistics, holidays, and pay coordination.
  • Introduced Scrum and sprints making IT operations predictable and moved the company beyond the startup phase.
  • Led the team into building with AI and integrated AI features into the product on AWS; conceived Email-to-Report, the foundation for an AI virtual assistant for workers' compensation.
  • Scheduled and managed a third-party penetration test, own SOC 2 compliance, and migrated the company to a new compliance automation platform.
  • Reorganized AWS infrastructure (security groups, Amplify, EC2, multiple RDS instances) into separate sandbox, staging, and production environments; reduced server costs and moved all systems to Docker with GitHub Actions deployment pipelines.
Dec 2024 - Dec 2025
Mod Advisor Des Moines, Iowa

Senior Systems Engineer

  • Full-stack development on the Mod Advisor platform with Laravel and PHP, including API development and system architecture that laid the groundwork for the later infrastructure reorganization.
  • Designed and set up the local office network: switch, Wi-Fi, and VLAN segmentation.
Nov 2021 - Mar 2023
Aragon Remote

Head of Decentralized Technology

  • Codeveloped Maintenance as a Service providing quality assurance, bug fixes, and software updates to Aragon’s current code set
  • Led 3rd party product integration efforts: Otoco, Raincards, EVMCrispr, Karma, and Parallel Markets.
  • Spearheaded multilingual documentation translation efforts.
  • Codeveloped the Aragon DAO Experts Program, a structure for collaboration of service providers.
Jun 2018 - Feb 2022
CoinLock Mumbai, India Miami, FL

Chief Technology Officer

  • Relocated to Mumbai for six months to open a local office, recruit and train the IT team, and build effective collaboration across international teams.
  • Built CoinLock's security program from the ground up: segmented the network behind firewalls, placed all staff and service access behind VPN, enforced TLS end to end, fronted the application tier with hardened reverse proxies, and led the policies, controls, and evidence work that prepared the company for SOC 2 certification.
  • Personally built the MVP for CoinLock's peer-to-peer derivatives and payments platforms, including its APIs, then grew the engineering team around it.
  • Owned cloud operations across 50 AWS instances and 15 RDS databases, including networking and cost management, with Azure as a secondary provider.
Jun 2008 - Feb 2024
Voz Technologies Remote

Founder

  • Developed a data mining and marketing system with PHP, Python, JavaScript, and MySQL consisting of 80 websites which generated over $3M.
  • Consumed multiple APIs parsing json and thousands of RSS data feeds.
  • 99.9% uptime by migrating on-prem Linux servers to EC2 and RDS instances on AWS.
  • Automated tasks with python, cron, bash/shell scripts, and php.
  • Improved system performance by implementing reverse proxy server and Redis caching which reduced server load by 80%.
Nov 2009 - Dec 2011
Bleam Technology Las Vegas, Nevada

Co-Founder and CTO

  • Built the CallArc prototype myself with no outside funding. It was a PSTN to VoIP platform that let any phone, even a rotary phone, call internationally for free. Stack: PHP, AGI Perl, Asterisk, MySQL.
  • Reached profitability within six months with no debt or outside investment, and grew to 43,000 subscribers.
  • Designed a voice keyword ad matching system that paid for free calls through targeted advertising and affiliate offers.
  • Led engineering for the six-person company, managing two developers, through its acquisition by Voip-Pal (VPLM) in 2011.
Jan 2007 - Feb 2008
TollFreeForwarding Los Angeles, CA

Systems Architect

  • Worked side by side with the CEO at a company with no CTO.
  • Acquired proficiency in TCL scripting and rebuilt the entire back end from scratch, including all of the Microsoft SQL stored procedures and the call routing software on Cisco AS5400 servers.
  • Recommended and implemented new features for the virtual PBX system at the core of the product, including call recording and call transfer.
  • Built monitoring software to track live calls and an audio conversion tool using SoX.
  • Managed all of the infrastructure, including Cisco switches, Windows servers, Microsoft SQL Server, IIS web servers, and Linux machines.
Mar 2005 - Mar 2007
Mobile Messenger Los Angeles, CA Sydney, Australia

Systems Administrator / Software Developer

  • Set up the company's Los Angeles office and stood up its IT operations, and also worked out of the Sydney, Australia office.
  • Oversaw the administration of an internal network, domain controllers, and Active Directory that extended across both the US and Australia.
  • Led the development team creating the front end and back end of over 500 php, HTML, CSS, and JavaScript landing pages.
Feb 2004 - Mar 2005
Science Center of Iowa Des Moines, Iowa

Network Administrator / Software Developer

  • Configured and managed Windows domain controllers, Active Directory, Exchange, file sharing, web servers, and VPN.
  • Managed LAN/WAN traffic, implementing QoS for VoIP and configuring Cisco switches.
  • Improved network security by implementing VLANs, a firewall, and segregated network traffic.
  • Migrated 150 workstations, servers, and switches to a new location within 48 hours.

Education & Certifications

2021
Encode Club

Smart Contract and dApp Development

2025
Scrum Alliance
2004
Kaplan University

AA Computer Science

2001
United States Air Force

Aerospace Ground Equipment

Portfolio

My Works
CallArc

CallArc

Project
Voz Technologies

Voz Technologies

Project
Zepey

Zepey

Project
Home Lab

Home Lab

Project
Perfect Home Strategies

Perfect Home Strategies

Project
CoinLock

CoinLock

Project
Picturing Us

Picturing Us

Project
CloudflareDDNS

CloudflareDDNS

Project
Network Control Console

Network Control Console

Project
Auto Option Sniper

Auto Option Sniper

Project
Cosmic Jukebox

Cosmic Jukebox

Project
Science Center of Iowa Network

Science Center of Iowa Network

Project
PropScout

PropScout

Project
CaddyFile Manager

CaddyFile Manager

Project
Interview with Brent Russell from Coinlock

Alpha Growth interview for Coinlock

Tech Crunch 2018

Photography

Travel Photography
Mestia, Georgia

Mestia, Georgia

Lake Mono, California

Lake Mono, California

Taba, Egypt

Taba, Egypt

Bwindi Impenetrable Forrest, Uganda

Bwindi Impenetrable Forrest, Uganda

Koh Lipe, Thailand

Koh Lipe, Thailand

Hong Kong, Hong Kong

Hong Kong, Hong Kong

Railay, Thailand

Railay, Thailand

Yellowstone, Wyoming

Yellowstone, Wyoming

Luxor, Egypt

Luxor, Egypt

Manatee State Park, Florida

Manatee State Park, Florida

White Pocket, Arizona

White Pocket, Arizona

Samarkand, Uzbekistan

Samarkand, Uzbekistan

Santorini, Greece

Santorini, Greece

Luang Praban, Laos

Luang Praban, Laos

Lago Titicaca, Bolivia

Lago Titicaca, Bolivia

Tikal, Guatemala

Tikal, Guatemala

Cancun, Mexico

Cancun, Mexico

Easter Island, Chile

Easter Island, Chile

Wendover, Utah

Wendover, Utah

Hong Kong, Hong Kong

Hong Kong, Hong Kong

Monopoli, Italy

Monopoli, Italy

Des Moines, Iowa

Des Moines, Iowa

Joshua Tree, California

Joshua Tree, California

Coron, Philippines

Coron, Philippines

Obidos, Portugal

Obidos, Portugal

Madrid, Spain

Madrid, Spain

Bali, Indonesia

Bali, Indonesia

Kyrenia, Turkish Republic Of Northern Cyprus

Kyrenia, Turkish Republic Of Northern Cyprus

Jodhpur, India

Jodhpur, India

Himalayas, Nepal

Himalayas, Nepal

Fort Peck Lake, Montana

Fort Peck Lake, Montana

Easter Island, Chile

Easter Island, Chile

Bonaire, Caribbean

Bonaire, Caribbean

Cairo, Egypt

Cairo, Egypt

Copan, Honduras

Copan, Honduras

Sofia, Bulgaria

Sofia, Bulgaria

White Sands, New Mexico

White Sands, New Mexico

Jardin, Colombia

Jardin, Colombia

Cano Piedras, Colombia

Cano Piedras, Colombia

Siem Reap, Cambodia

Siem Reap, Cambodia

Hoi An, Vietnam

Hoi An, Vietnam

Santorini, Greece

Santorini, Greece

Boracay, Philippines

Boracay, Philippines

Arches National Park, Utah

Arches National Park, Utah

Sapa, Vietnam

Sapa, Vietnam

Perito Moreno, Argentina

Perito Moreno, Argentina

Siem Reap, Cambodia

Siem Reap, Cambodia

Taj Mahal, India

Taj Mahal, India

Punta Cana, Dominican Republic

Punta Cana, Dominican Republic

Bratislava, Slovakia

Bratislava, Slovakia

Hebron, Palestine

Hebron, Palestine

Santo Amaro Do Maranhao, Brazil

Santo Amaro Do Maranhao, Brazil

Al Quneitra, Syria

Al Quneitra, Syria

Bethlehem, Palestine

Bethlehem, Palestine

Grand Canyon, Arizona

Grand Canyon, Arizona

Amsterdam, Netherlands

Amsterdam, Netherlands

Wadi Bani Khalid, Oman

Wadi Bani Khalid, Oman

Plitvice, Croatia

Plitvice, Croatia

Marina Bay Sands, Singapore

Marina Bay Sands, Singapore

Nairobi, Kenya

Nairobi, Kenya

Bangkok, Thailand

Bangkok, Thailand

Sao Paulo, Brazil

Sao Paulo, Brazil

Matera, Italy

Matera, Italy

Isle Of Skye, Scotland

Isle Of Skye, Scotland

A Coruna, Spain

A Coruna, Spain

Washington, District Of Columbia

Washington, District Of Columbia

Sicily, Italy

Sicily, Italy

Jardin, Colombia

Jardin, Colombia

Symphony Of Stones, Armenia

Symphony Of Stones, Armenia

Koh Tao, Thailand

Koh Tao, Thailand

Sorrento, Italy

Sorrento, Italy

Cameron Highlands, Malaysia

Cameron Highlands, Malaysia

Caye Caulker, Belize

Caye Caulker, Belize

Bwindi Impenetrable Forrest, Uganda

Bwindi Impenetrable Forrest, Uganda

Chaing Mai, Thailand

Chaing Mai, Thailand

Yosemite, California

Yosemite, California

Iguazu, Brazil

Iguazu, Brazil

Lago Titicaca, Bolivia

Lago Titicaca, Bolivia

Queen Elizabeth Natl Park, Uganda

Queen Elizabeth Natl Park, Uganda

Muscat, Oman

Muscat, Oman

Porto Covo, Portugal

Porto Covo, Portugal

Dambulla, Sri Lanka

Dambulla, Sri Lanka

Owens Valley, California

Owens Valley, California

Cuenca, Ecuador

Cuenca, Ecuador

Ella, Sri Lanka

Ella, Sri Lanka

Bethlehem, Palestine

Bethlehem, Palestine

Venice, Italy

Venice, Italy

Ticino, Italy

Ticino, Italy

Merzouga, Morrocco

Merzouga, Morrocco

Crator Lake, Oregon

Crator Lake, Oregon

Buckskin Gulch, Utah

Buckskin Gulch, Utah

Luang Praban, Laos

Luang Praban, Laos

Km Desert, Oman

Km Desert, Oman

Donsol, Philippines

Donsol, Philippines

Granada, Spain

Granada, Spain

Pushkar, India

Pushkar, India

Grand Teton, Wyoming

Grand Teton, Wyoming

London, England

London, England

Udairpur, India

Udairpur, India

Bali, Indonesia

Bali, Indonesia

Sugar Dunes, Oman

Sugar Dunes, Oman

El Nido, Philippines

El Nido, Philippines

Apulia, Italy

Apulia, Italy

Willemstad

Willemstad

Bled, Slovenia

Bled, Slovenia

Easter Island, Chile

Easter Island, Chile

New York, New York

New York, New York

Salalah, Oman

Salalah, Oman

Ha Long, Vietnam

Ha Long, Vietnam

Colon, Panama

Colon, Panama

Fort Peck Lake, Montana

Fort Peck Lake, Montana

Paris, France

Paris, France

Meeru, Maldives

Meeru, Maldives

Segovia, Spain

Segovia, Spain

Cinque Terre, Italy

Cinque Terre, Italy

Semuc Champey, Guatemala

Semuc Champey, Guatemala

Zakynthos, Greece

Zakynthos, Greece

Iskanderkul, Tajikistan

Iskanderkul, Tajikistan

Baku, Azerbaijan

Baku, Azerbaijan

New York, New York

New York, New York

Luang Prabang, Laos

Luang Prabang, Laos

Walt Disney, Florida

Walt Disney, Florida

Varanasi, India

Varanasi, India

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Alhambra, Spain

Alhambra, Spain

Porto, Portugal

Porto, Portugal

Koh Lipe, Thailand

Koh Lipe, Thailand

Lago Titicaca, Bolivia

Lago Titicaca, Bolivia

Tatev, Armenia

Tatev, Armenia

Prague, Czech Republic

Prague, Czech Republic

Cappadocia, Turkey

Cappadocia, Turkey

Punta Cana, Dominican Republic

Punta Cana, Dominican Republic

Hamburg, Germany

Hamburg, Germany

Ratchaburi, Thailand

Ratchaburi, Thailand

White Pocket, Arizona

White Pocket, Arizona

Iquitos, Peru

Iquitos, Peru

Annapurna, Nepal

Annapurna, Nepal

Bali, Indonesia

Bali, Indonesia

Paris, France

Paris, France

San Juan, Puerto Rico

San Juan, Puerto Rico

Zebra Canyon, Utah

Zebra Canyon, Utah

Saigon, Vietnam

Saigon, Vietnam

Chicago, Illinois

Chicago, Illinois

Death Valley, California

Death Valley, California

Rio De Janeiro, Brazil

Rio De Janeiro, Brazil

Zakynthos, Greece

Zakynthos, Greece

Annapurna, Nepal

Annapurna, Nepal

Koh Tao, Thailand

Koh Tao, Thailand

Bonaire, Bonaire

Bonaire, Bonaire

Perito Moreno, Argentina

Perito Moreno, Argentina

Amsterdam, Netherlands

Amsterdam, Netherlands

Salar De Uyuni, Bolivia

Salar De Uyuni, Bolivia

Plitvice, Croatia

Plitvice, Croatia

Ceiba, Puerto Rico

Ceiba, Puerto Rico

Cairo, Egypt

Cairo, Egypt

Guatape, Colombia

Guatape, Colombia

Mue Ne, Vietnam

Mue Ne, Vietnam

Jodhpur, India

Jodhpur, India

Everglades, Florida

Everglades, Florida

Jardin, Colombia

Jardin, Colombia

Meeru, Maldives

Meeru, Maldives

Annapurna, Nepal

Annapurna, Nepal

Ayai Napa, Cyprus

Ayai Napa, Cyprus

Pushkar, India

Pushkar, India

Big Almaty, Kazakhstan

Big Almaty, Kazakhstan

Bruges, Belgium

Bruges, Belgium

Salalah, Oman

Salalah, Oman

Maasai Mara, Kenya

Maasai Mara, Kenya

Kuwait, Kuwait

Kuwait, Kuwait

Devils Tower, Wyoming

Devils Tower, Wyoming

Maasai Mara, Kenya

Maasai Mara, Kenya

Kotor, Montenegro

Kotor, Montenegro

Parque Guell, Spain

Parque Guell, Spain

Issyk Kul, Kyrgystan

Issyk Kul, Kyrgystan

Cuenca, Ecuador

Cuenca, Ecuador

Horseshoe Bend, Arizona

Horseshoe Bend, Arizona

Yellowstone, Wyoming

Yellowstone, Wyoming

Varanasi, India

Varanasi, India

Cappadocia, Turkey

Cappadocia, Turkey

Monaco, Monaco

Monaco, Monaco

Svalbard, Norway

Svalbard, Norway

Luang Praban, Laos

Luang Praban, Laos

Istanbul, Turkey

Istanbul, Turkey

Ushuaia, Argentina

Ushuaia, Argentina

San Blas, Panama

San Blas, Panama

San Blas, Panama

San Blas, Panama

Dubrovnik, Croatia

Dubrovnik, Croatia

Puerto Vallarta, Mexico

Puerto Vallarta, Mexico

Algarve, Portugal

Algarve, Portugal

Zell Am See, Austria

Zell Am See, Austria

Kathmandu, Nepal

Kathmandu, Nepal

Saigon, Vietnam

Saigon, Vietnam

Jaipur, India

Jaipur, India

Milan, Italy

Milan, Italy

Bali, Indonesia

Bali, Indonesia

Cairo, Egypt

Cairo, Egypt

Smoky Mountains, Tennessee

Smoky Mountains, Tennessee

Khao Phing Kan, Thailand

Khao Phing Kan, Thailand

Prague, Czech Republic

Prague, Czech Republic

Iquitos, Peru

Iquitos, Peru

Garfield, Montana

Garfield, Montana

Luang Prabang, Laos

Luang Prabang, Laos

Jaisalmer, India

Jaisalmer, India

Siem Reap, Cambodia

Siem Reap, Cambodia

Ayai Napa, Cyprus

Ayai Napa, Cyprus

Lake Mono, California

Lake Mono, California

Queen Elizabeth Natl Park, Uganda

Queen Elizabeth Natl Park, Uganda

Burano, Italy

Burano, Italy

Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica

Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica

Polis, Cyprus

Polis, Cyprus

Isabela, Puerto Rico

Isabela, Puerto Rico

Des Moines, Iowa

Des Moines, Iowa

Cu Chi, Vietnam

Cu Chi, Vietnam

Death Valley, California

Death Valley, California

Bonaire, Caribbean

Bonaire, Caribbean

Marrakesh, Morocco

Marrakesh, Morocco

Meteora, Greece

Meteora, Greece

Varanasi, India

Varanasi, India

Arches National Park, Utah

Arches National Park, Utah

Krka, Croatia

Krka, Croatia

Wendover, Utah

Wendover, Utah

Rome, Italy

Rome, Italy

Cancun, Mexico

Cancun, Mexico

Yanardagh, Azerbaijan

Yanardagh, Azerbaijan

Ninh Binh, Vietnam

Ninh Binh, Vietnam

Davis-monthan AFB, Arizona

Davis-monthan AFB, Arizona

Coron, Philippines

Coron, Philippines

Pacific Coast Highway, California

Pacific Coast Highway, California

Tuscany, Italy

Tuscany, Italy

Darvaza, Turkmenistan

Darvaza, Turkmenistan

El Nido, Philippines

El Nido, Philippines

Montanita, Ecuador

Montanita, Ecuador

Annapurna, Nepal

Annapurna, Nepal

Machu Picchu, Peru

Machu Picchu, Peru

Wolfgangsee, Austria

Wolfgangsee, Austria

Masaya, Nicaragua

Masaya, Nicaragua

Cano Cristales, Colombia

Cano Cristales, Colombia

Samana, Dominican Republic

Samana, Dominican Republic

Madrid, Iowa

Madrid, Iowa

Yala, Sri Lanka

Yala, Sri Lanka

Ayai Napa, Cyprus

Ayai Napa, Cyprus

Ning Bing, Vietnam

Ning Bing, Vietnam

Pushkar, India

Pushkar, India

Jamestown, South Carolina

Jamestown, South Carolina

Phi Phi, Thailand

Phi Phi, Thailand

Travel Map

Places I've Been
658 Destinations
92 Countries
266 North America
159 Europe
144 Asia
65 South America
21 Africa
3 Oceania

Contact

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